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Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Twitchin Kitten - 01-01-2011
Animal Abusers Make the A (abusers)- List <-clicky
Should personal information about convicted animal abusers be made available to the public, just as it is for sex offenders?
If a California bill is approved, the state will be the first in the U.S. to require adults convicted of animal cruelty felonies to register with their local police and provide their names, home addresses, places of employment and current photographs. That information, along with the offense, would be posted online. (The website pet-abuse.com currently offers a limited registry of animal abusers in the U.S.)
The bill, SB 1277, was introduced on February 19 by Dean Florez, the State Senate’s majority leader and chairman of the Food and Agriculture Committee. He wrote it with help from the Animal Legal Defense Fund (ALDF), an animal-protection group that.... click the headline for the FULL story with links and pictures.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - BarEdul - 01-01-2011
would you sell to a person who was on this list if you had a brain in your head or would this too be abused and every cat who had a empty water dish for 30 seconds become abused? I wonder what implications this new nanny state we are living in will have over all.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Havoc - 01-01-2011
I don't like to much of anything that is state controlled, you can bet that it will ambiguous, and abused by the state, it will become a revenue generator and nothing more, it will be used to regulate breeders and not the criminals.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Twilla - 01-01-2011
I think it'd be pretty handy for anyone trying to sell or give away an animal, be it private citizen or a public shelter, to be able to check a website before handing over an animal to an unknown person.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Twitchin Kitten - 01-01-2011
(01-01-2011, 01:23 PM)BarEdul Wrote: would you sell to a person who was on this list if you had a brain in your head or would this too be abused and every cat who had a empty water dish for 30 seconds become abused? I wonder what implications this new nanny state we are living in will have over all.
Ermm.... are you for a list like this or against it? In the Suffolk County thread you liked the idea and you liked the idea of the abuser having to fund the list.
I think these are a good idea. They will only use it to put felony convicted abusers on it and they are trying to figure a way to fund it now. I don't like the idea of taxing pet food. That puts too much risk of the idiots in DC picking that pocket to pay for something else and wind up losing this thing due to lack of funding.
Suffolk County has a good idea. County shelter run, offender funded.
I like the idea of knowing if a felonious abuser lives by me. The punishment is far too lenient for convicted abusers. Look at that fuckwit Vick. He had a 5 year jail sentence and he fenagled his way out in 18 months and so far has not lived up to his promise of helping more animals than he hurt. NOT ONE DIME was spent to help animals. NOT ONCE has he gone to neighborhoods where dog fighting is prevalent to give one of his talks. I do not believe for one moment that he has repented his ways nor do I believe he gives a flying fuck about any animal. He's going thru the motions so he can stay out of jail and make millions of dollars.
Know what pisses me off more? You get twats like Duchess go on and on how bad he was when the shit hit the fan with him but now that it's football season and her beloved Eagles need him - every thing is AOK by her. That's bullshit IMO and just goes to show how she manages her feelings to make things convenient for her. Football takes precedence over animals. Many people feel this way, not just her.
Vick is a killer. He always will be and he will never change. The things he did come from a deep dark part of his soul that didn't come there by accident nor a temporary happenstance. People like HIM belong on a list. EVERY dog fighter belongs on a list. Every asshole who shoots a dog should be on this list. I would be very happy if I know who of my neighbors had habits of animal abuse. It's one step to help me keep my pets safe. I know they're there - my cats stay in. Neighborhood clean, they get to go out once in awhile.
I equate these people with child abusers and pedophiles - they can do their time but they'll never change. It's who they are from their very soul.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Jamminitin - 01-01-2011
Vick did the time. I don't think he should ever be allowed to own an animal, but how long should someone pay for their crime?
I have an employee who is a convicted felon. He had applied for over 20 jobs before we hired him. How is it we don't give people a second chance?
My employee is an awesome kind sweet man who made a very bad choice. Should he never be able to have a life now?
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Jamminitin - 01-01-2011
I also know someone who commited a burglary when they were 17. They are now in their mid 20's, paid restitution, is a productive member of society, has no re-offenses and can't rent an apt........
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Twitchin Kitten - 01-01-2011
I never said he didn't deserve a chance but he did NOT do his time. Football season was coming around and he got a pass.
He's not living up to his promise to help dogs either.
Animal abusers, pedophiles and people abusers do not rehabilitate. They learn to cope but they can't be trusted. Often times the "slip" and do the same shit again. Being on the list will not stop them from second chances. It only alerts those around them not to give them a dog.
And Vick did not have to kill these animals the way he did. Bad enough he was running a fighting ring, but he could have humanely killed (still illegal though) instead of holding their head in a bucket and drowning them, or electrocuting, hanging, beating to death, setting on fire..... all with his own hands. Sorry, but it takes a special kind of evil to do what he did and he's not the only piece of shit who had done these things.
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Twilla - 01-01-2011
Do you think he should be executed?
RE: Animal Abusers make the A (abusers)- List - Jamminitin - 01-01-2011
I agree that someone that can do something like that is broken, but there are men in the NFL who beat the shit out of their wives and no ones says anything to them. There are "regular" people that do the same thing and don't get the sentence Vick got.
I guess I don't think his penalty should be worse because he's a pro football player and not easier. The bottom line is though, that you may not feel he served "enough" time, he did serve out his penalty.
As far as him saying he'd help animals, well that's just lip service. He shouldn't be penalized for not following through though